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	<title>Carpe Diem &#187; real estate</title>
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		<title>Handover&#8230;..</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Sorry I mean Hanover.
I have &#8216;lost&#8217; a reasonable amount of my  cash when I need it working for me. Yup, I am one of thousands who took the fitch rating given to Hanover Finance as a sign of a thumbs up. Poppy Cock. 
I am also feeling stupid, feeble and angry at my self for not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Sorry I mean Hanover.</p>
<p>I have &#8216;lost&#8217; a reasonable amount of my  cash when I need it working for me. Yup, I am one of thousands who took the fitch rating given to Hanover Finance as a sign of a thumbs up. Poppy Cock. </p>
<p>I am also feeling stupid, feeble and angry at my self for not doing my homework and being dare I say it, Greedy.. It&#8217;s funny that I do more research into buying a fridge or PC than I did investing [should that be donating?] in Hanover Finance&#8230;</p>
<p>Lessons learned from this little doctorate of life:</p>
<p>1) Don&#8217;t believe the hype. Nice recognised Kiwi homely guy -Richard Long- doing the ad voice over, flashy sponsorship of NZ morning business TV program, massive media coverage in evry format, &#8230;must be good - looking at the 10% interest rate on 1st Ranking SECURED debenture stock&#8230;</p>
<p>2) Look at the rating. Now I have learned what &#8216;Non Investment Grade&#8217; means. I have to put this lesson up with the one I learned as a kid&#8230;the one about not sucking lemons! I thought a Fitch B+ would be good. Here&#8217;s the list&#8230;look where Hanover sits.</p>
<p><strong>Investment Grade</strong> </p>
<ul>
<li><strong>AAA</strong>  : the best quality companies, reliable and stable</li>
<li><strong>AA</strong>  : quality companies, a bit higher risk than AAA</li>
<li><strong>A</strong>  : economic situation can affect finance</li>
<li><strong>BBB</strong>  : medium class companies, which are satisfactory at the moment</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Non-Investment Grade</strong> (also known as <a class="mw-redirect" title="Junk bonds" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_bonds">junk bonds</a>)</p>
<p> </p>
<ul>
<li><strong>BB</strong>  : more prone to changes in the economy<strong></strong></li>
<li><strong>B  : financial situation varies noticeably [Hanover]<span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong></strong></span></strong></li>
<li><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>CCC</strong>  : currently vulnerable and dependent on favorable economic conditions to meet its commitments</span></strong></li>
<li><strong>CC</strong>  : highly vulnerable, very speculative bonds</li>
<li><strong>C</strong>  : highly vulnerable, perhaps in bankruptcy or in arrears but still continuing to pay out on obligations</li>
<li><strong>D</strong>  : has defaulted on obligations and Fitch believes that it will generally default on most or all obligations</li>
<li><strong>NR</strong>  : not publicly rated</li>
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<p>If you are gonna part with a reasonable amount of cash into an investment&#8230;.talk to people who know, don&#8217;t know and those who have no opinion.  Then make up your own mind.  Don&#8217;t do as I/we did&#8230;and get sucked into the &#8220;woohoo&#8230; $6K in only 12 months for doing nothing&#8221; closed group chat thing&#8230;I have done very much more than $6k&#8217;s worth of worrying, pleading, letter writing, moaning and now crying in the last 12 months.</p>
<p>4) And when you&#8217;re down in the dumps about the bad investment you/I made, don&#8217;t listen to all the pricks who come out saying things like &#8220;well I warned you&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;you should have known&#8221; blah blah blah. Hindsight is awesome.</p>
<p>On a final note it will be interesting to have a little look-see in about 25 years when people want to draw on their nice  kiwi-saver scheme pension&#8230;.shock horror&#8230;.&#8221;what do you mean it wasn&#8217;t guaranteed? that&#8217;s my life savings mate?&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe the NZ Government will stand by and let these two F$#%&amp;^s just carry on with their oh so fantastic [rich] lives when  this blows over them&#8230;.</p>
<p>I tried to be proactive with my investments for my future but I suppose greed and stupidity/naivity on my part led to this. So I&#8217;ll suck this one and get on with it. I&#8217;m only 34.</p>
<p>Some older people arn&#8217;t so lucky. I hope Eric and Mark get their big dollop of karma&#8230;.</p>
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